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Rivelino
post Jan 9 2010, 12:15 AM
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Greetings,

I have played this game for a long time, day-in, day-out, enjoying greatly from the existing comradeship. For that, and to strengthen my team, I have gladly spent over a 1000€, because by improving my team I also increased the fun I got from the game.

When I started playing the game, I joined DFL Football Union, but later on changed to the ULP Football Union, which seemed to displease some moderators, who appear to have me on their sights since.

I usually exchange some playful banter with a female fellow-player, and on finding out she now was a moderator, I chatted a bit with her, asking her on how to get the position, and joking on her “probie moderator” status among older moderators. Moderator Goni had followed our personal conversation, and took offense to it, issuing me a red card, although we were just chatting among friends. I disliked been punished for a private conversation, and considered changing server to another country.

The following day I had been banned for 5 years.

Trying to present a defence, I posted in the Forum, asking why had I been banned, not getting any clear reply, just that the ban was active for all servers, and a rude accusation of being childish from mod LipeRJ. No explanation was EVER given to me on why I had received a 5-year ban.

After some private inquiries, I found that on the announcement about overpriced transfers, I had posted my opinion - not personally insulting anyone -, and wondering on how one was supposed to guess that a player was abandoning the game after performing a transfer. Apparently, I had been banned 5 years for that.

So I present my apologies to my friend, although she did not seem to take offense from it, and to any other who, without my knowledge, was listening to our conversation. Also to any others who may have felt that I was referring to them, when I said that guesswork would be needed when performing a transfer.

Sincerely yours,
Rivelino
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post Jan 9 2010, 12:43 AM
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I suppose that in this game - as in many other online games -, if someone complains that he/she has been offended, measures will be taken against the offender.
But if the case is of eavesdropping somebody else's conversation, that is not a proper procedure.

And as far as the "Transfers Affair" is concerned, as someone with over 20 years experience in IT, including similar functions as a moderator, AND team leader, it is being not properly handled, and escalating way out of proportions: first, you investigate; second, present proofs and punishment; third, allow defense, if there is any;

But that assumes a Zeroth, which is defining the rules, which has not been done previously. Over the last month I have seen, not one, but many players being transfered for 2M values, or close to it. The game allows it, if it should not, change the rules and game accordingly, publicly announce the changes, and FROM THEN ON, apply the rules. This MUST be the basis of any actions, before they are performed.

It did not happen thus: first, both players performing the transfer were punished, and from that moment on, MANY OTHER PLAYERS HAVE BEEN BANNED - the first being Rivelino - , and their comments deleted, just for expressing their disagreement with the bans.
I can not say how many have been banned, but I can tell you that I noticed several disappearing from the comments - B0SS, for one -, not having insulted or been rude to anyone.
Just for expressing their opinion, and it was against the way things are being done.
Are only lip service opinions allowed? And are we all guided by clearly-defined rules?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Rivelino   Rivelino Ban   Jan 9 2010, 12:15 AM
Special Two   I agree. Let her be calm and to think well. Why ...   Jan 9 2010, 12:30 AM
jeremy68   Is a pity that some moderators are not able to see...   Jan 9 2010, 12:39 AM
juansgo   The Rivas was banned for the absurd No reason for ...   Jan 9 2010, 12:42 AM
Conrado   I suppose that in this game - as in many other onl...   Jan 9 2010, 12:43 AM
xandre   I´ve heard about what happened with revelino and i...   Jan 9 2010, 12:49 AM
Rskeys   Well, private should mean private although it does...   Jan 9 2010, 01:15 AM
dreamlan-d   You cant win respect, but you can earn it respecti...   Jan 9 2010, 01:29 AM
ngfelix   hi all. i m playing this game for short time but i...   Jan 9 2010, 01:29 AM
harlenjones   I hope the administrators take a decision, because...   Jan 9 2010, 01:47 AM
waxmen1   Hello I believe that if the person was in partic...   Jan 9 2010, 03:33 AM
Mutt   Harlen, you see, it's comments like those you ...   Jan 9 2010, 03:01 AM
tombstone   Heys... Im new around here, but i think we should...   Jan 9 2010, 03:40 AM
Brankinho   I hope that situation resolves in a positive way, ...   Jan 9 2010, 03:52 AM
Mister_Roy   Hello Moderators and Administrators, My words go ...   Jan 9 2010, 04:30 AM
3vio   Hi all.. After I read the problem here, I thing t...   Jan 9 2010, 04:19 AM
rev   Hi guys, I came across this forum and feel that I ...   Jan 9 2010, 04:25 AM
snakechenko   Hello allow me to give my opinion and no offense ...   Jan 9 2010, 05:19 AM
keem   [color=#999999]Seems that this have turned to som...   Jan 9 2010, 06:46 AM


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