do you think this is fair?, about new rule Options

[ailwasp]

hi,
i fully support fight against players who play 24hours a day.. so i welcome the attempt to do something,, but what was done is terrible.. i am not using bots, it is only me , who is playing, but i play more than 50 games almost every day..

i recommend to this:

after 50games you decrease the game exp, and stadium revenue to lets say 90% of full value.. then after next for example 30 games,, it will be 80%,, after next 30 games,, 70% and so on..

i think it is much more acceptable, if it is done gradually,, not just a jump from full exp to almost zero..

and it would harm players like me only a little.. but it would harm the real cheaters more

thanks for possible consideration of this

i support this idea ,and it`s very good, and i`m sure of it that many people agree with him please take his idea in consideration, it`s very good

[ailwasp]

There are much reasons why this rule is very bad...

1. you cant play game how much you want

2. you said you trying to euqal all teams and members no meter what the vip or no vip thay have? now, how will guy with no vip reach exp points against guy who has vip account? its not possible... earlyer you could play friendly games with no vip for days (like i did until i think i had team good inafe to compete for tournys)
now no vip players can get at most about 3k points of exp per player per day... which magnet vip4 can do in 1 game.... so that story about geting all users equal chanse not standing....

3. guys with lower lvls (i mean from lvl0 to lvl8) thay will keep geting manager experiance points but thay will not get inafe expiriance points for players to keep tham up to be good inafe for next manager lvl thay playing...
(so lvl9+ have some sorta of advantage here becouse thay dont care about manager exp anymore)

4. you killed strategy of some players like me for fans number going down after 50th game... i spend 2much money on stadium and i have 5k place for fans now even tho in that time i knew it will be hard to get my money invested in that stadium... now bulding stadium and invest to make some money is imposible (its possible if you look next 10 years in future)

5. we would all now playing this game (tournys and friendlys) and you woulnt have to take your time reading all this and answering on it....
i finished my 50 games today at about 4-5 pm and till 7pm it was started to be worthless to play

there is probobly more resons which i cant remeber at this moment but this post will be edited for sure

now some suggestion,

make at least 100games per day limit (which is low for me) or make 20hours per day limit (which is perfect for me lol )

EDIT: its useless to have now more than 22 players in team... you cant skill tham all in 50 games... so delete baseclub3-4

thats bulls**t sorry if i`m rude ,but that thing with the equality and fairnessis just a pretext/excuse , actuali , i was wrong firs when i said that there is no point in buying vip )) acvtually the main reason for this rule, is to make other players (withno vip) to bu vip beacuse without VIP in 50 games exp your worthless this is a fact! , 20 h limit is to much no one playes that much sorry , 20/7 is to much so each day you sleep just 4 h, and dont work, dont go out, man you`re boddy will colapse )) lol , it has to be something more resonable , not 50 games, lets say that schiphol`s idea it`sd one of the best , and also you have to do something about the bonuses, because they worth nothing if you play then just 4-6 h

i`m currently at lvl 2 and i can pull down more than 50 games wtih just 1 restore (vip2), so imagine just this if you ahave good players(with good stamina/endurance), and 3 restores, you can playe 50 games in just 2-3 h

an i`m still repeating my self what about the friendlies??? they bring me not enough exp, so lest say if i had vip 4 , and i play 3-4 cups + 20 friendlies that`s it? that you can do at lvl 4-10 in 4-6 h, so let`sw just say if you make it time limited..i`m just saying 5-6 h sleep , let`s presume taht not everybody goes to school or work, or that they can play from the work a few games so let`s cut down again 2 h , -2 h again for eating and so on that`s 10 h right, so we would still have 14 h to play, that`s fair right?

if it`s game(match) limited than schiphol`s idea is the best

[Nekki Gamer]

thats bulls**t sorry if i`m rude ,but that thing with the equality and fairnessis just a pretext/excuse , actuali , i was wrong firs when i said that there is no point in buying vip )) acvtually the main reason for this rule, is to make other players (withno vip) to bu vip beacuse without VIP in 50 games exp your worthless this is a fact! , 20 h limit is to much no one playes that much sorry , 20/7 is to much so each day you sleep just 4 h, and dont work, dont go out, man you`re boddy will colapse )) lol , it has to be something more resonable , not 50 games, lets say that schiphol`s idea it`sd one of the best , and also you have to do something about the bonuses, because they worth nothing if you play then just 4-6 h

i`m currently at lvl 2 and i can pull down more than 50 games wtih just 1 restore (vip2), so imagine just this if you ahave good players(with good stamina/endurance), and 3 restores, you can playe 50 games in just 2-3 h

an i`m still repeating my self what about the friendlies??? they bring me not enough exp, so lest say if i had vip 4 , and i play 3-4 cups + 20 friendlies that`s it? that you can do at lvl 4-10 in 4-6 h, so let`sw just say if you make it time limited..i`m just saying 5-6 h sleep , let`s presume taht not everybody goes to school or work, or that they can play from the work a few games so let`s cut down again 2 h , -2 h again for eating and so on that`s 10 h right, so we would still have 14 h to play, that`s fair right?

if it`s game(match) limited than schiphol`s idea is the best

im not sure do u even know what you want.... thay puted game limit so as thay say "every player has equal chanse no metter the vip thay have" and thay made completely oposite, players without vip cant catch up with vip players not metter what thay do which makes this game totaly rubish and its not competitive at all...

but even like this only morons and rich people will continue to buy boosters and vip ranks... thay fooked a lot of players with discount before thay bring us news that thay will fook up game as soon as we buy boosters and vip ranks... but that will not stop me to leave this game (at least to the time when thay will bring new better rules) so if the point was to take our money and thay fooked us up after that great... i can live with my 30-40euros spent on this game... hope thay will buy house with tham...

i didnt say i can play 20 hours per day, most i did it was 18 i think and that was when i turned double exp....
but who the fook cares how much i can play and do i have job or how much i sleep... for example im working at home (some easy web job which i need 30min to 1 hour per day to finish) and yes i have life, i have wife and kids and im going to meetings, restourants, partys etc. but i dont want to go when i want to play the game.... i dont want to be pushed by tham when i will stop to play the game becouse i made my limit per day... sometimes i want to play 200 games (if even that is possible) and some times i will not have time to play 1 game.... but its not up to tham to dicade how much i will play per day and what will be limit for me... or is it up to tham? well i guess it is... but its not my foult thay are playing god with maybe 10k active users and 1 million of multiacount and unactive users... thay made thay choise... if this decision stand... thay will maybe have only rich people and complete retards staying around here to play... or maybe the game will die to the end... like rock said "its the begining of the end"....

[Rock]

it doesn´t matter if they spend 100 EUR per month or 2000 EUR per month for every staff member should be every user equal - so this arguments are nonsense even if you have a look for the company that gets it in both games

Are you sure?
maybe for you it'doesn't matter, because you are mod, and working only for fun and little bit boosters (monthly about 10-20)
but for admins team it's general work, and for this they receive a real salary.
But when they are instead of real money will bring home (to get in credit cards) virtual boosters, because of the introduction , people will leave the project, then I'll see how you are going to laugh.... :lol

[ailwasp]

Are you sure?
maybe for you it'doesn't matter, because you are mod, and working only for fun and little bit boosters (monthly about 10-20)
but for admins team it's general work, and for this they receive a real salary.
But when they are instead of real money will bring home (to get in credit cards) virtual boosters, because of the introduction , people will leave the project, then I'll see how you are going to laugh.... :lol

gooo9d point!!!

im not sure do u even know what you want.... thay puted game limit so as thay say "every player has equal chanse no metter the vip thay have" and thay made completely oposite, players without vip cant catch up with vip players not metter what thay do which makes this game totaly rubish and its not competitive at all...

but even like this only morons and rich people will continue to buy boosters and vip ranks... thay fooked a lot of players with discount before thay bring us news that thay will fook up game as soon as we buy boosters and vip ranks... but that will not stop me to leave this game (at least to the time when thay will bring new better rules) so if the point was to take our money and thay fooked us up after that great... i can live with my 30-40euros spent on this game... hope thay will buy house with tham...

i didnt say i can play 20 hours per day, most i did it was 18 i think and that was when i turned double exp....
but who the fook cares how much i can play and do i have job or how much i sleep... for example im working at home (some easy web job which i need 30min to 1 hour per day to finish) and yes i have life, i have wife and kids and im going to meetings, restourants, partys etc. but i dont want to go when i want to play the game.... i dont want to be pushed by tham when i will stop to play the game becouse i made my limit per day... sometimes i want to play 200 games (if even that is possible) and some times i will not have time to play 1 game.... but its not up to tham to dicade how much i will play per day and what will be limit for me... or is it up to tham? well i guess it is... but its not my foult thay are playing god with maybe 10k active users and 1 million of multiacount and unactive users... thay made thay choise... if this decision stand... thay will maybe have only rich people and complete retards staying around here to play... or maybe the game will die to the end... like rock said "its the begining of the end"....

you`we got a point , i was just telling that it would be better a realistic limitation, and yes it does not matter if you work, or have time or not at all, it was just an example and yes it`s hard to stay in this game if they take away every bit of pleasure from it (but IM REALLY SURE THAT NOTHING WILL CHANGE ( we`re just "yelling our lung out" for nothing ..but we will see)

[g3ck0]

Are you sure?
maybe for you it'doesn't matter, because you are mod, and working only for fun and little bit boosters (monthly about 10-20)
but for admins team it's general work, and for this they receive a real salary.

maybe you should have a closer look before you try to blame someone else ...
I´m no mod at all for a long time now ...

So please talk about facts - thank you in advance ...

[Rock]

maybe you should have a closer look before you try to blame someone else ...
I´m no mod at all for a long time now ...

So please talk about facts - thank you in advance ...

I'm sorry if offended by something, but I do not look your profile every day....
Have a nice holiday Hope you never come back , especially as the mod....

Sorry for offtopic

[g3ck0]

But you don´t offend anybody

Back to topic

[Nekki Gamer]

I'm sorry if offended by something, but I do not look your profile every day....
Have a nice holiday Hope you never come back , especially as the mod....

Sorry for offtopic

rofl.... sorry for spam

[BigJock]

I think the point about this statistic of 2% being very inaccurate is important. You seem to have pissed off 100% of people...

But seriously even if this was only 2% these are your most loyal fans and your best customers! It's just crazy to limit the use of your product/service it makes no business sense. You should reward your most hardcore users not punish them.

Maybe you believe that new players lose a lot and are put off staying in this game but i think that's going to happen anyway. The people who really enjoy the game will stick around anyway. I am a new player myself. I don't play a lot of hours each day and i expect to get beaten by players who spend more time and money than me. That's just part of the competition.
Even so i have built a nice team i am happy with and have won enough cups because i learned about tactics etc from my union mates (thank you E.E.F). If you want to create an easy game for kids or dummies to play that's a very boring plan.

People like this game because it is difficult and competitive.

If someone has all day to play every day why should i care ? So they will beat me at 11x11 big deal.

This rule change wont really effect me but like most average users of this game there are some days i would like to be able to chose to play more than 50 games if i have the time and the inclination.

I know it is an effort to stop cheating and that is very good but i think this is the wrong idea currently.

I suggested on the post (before all of our comments were deleted) that you create a monthly limit rather than daily with the same amount of games or maybe slightly more than you suggest.

For example why not 60 games per day but spread over 1 month = 1800 or maybe 2000 games each month? This means i can play a lot of games when i have time and no games when i don't. The overall limit over 1 month is the same and will have the same effect against bots. There are many valid reasons to play more than 50 games in one day. Its possible to play a lot of friendly matches very quickly for example. In fact it is necessary to train the players.

I think you believe this change will mean you gain more players and you can create more revenue from advertising, partnerships and sponsors but you are wrong. I think it will have the opposite effect because it is the hardcore players who give your game its life.
It's the hardcore users that make this game fun for me to play and make it a challenge. They organize the unions like the one i joined, they teach the rest about tactics, they create and train the best players for the rest of us to buy so let them play as much as they like really or put a more realistic limit instead.

Good luck and i hope you are listening!

Regards BigJock

[ailwasp]

[b]SORRY this message is from another topic, but still worth seeing [b]

It sucks,

I have magnate and in 4 tournments I get out of 2, that is 50% of the tournments.

Besides I was eliminated because I draw against someone that was not even playing, was off.

I'm tired of this shit, I paid, I'm playing, I have rights and I'm sick of seeing off people geting rewards.

You said that was going to change, but nothing was done.

I really want to know if it is worth to pay for, or if things are going to stay the same.

In another topic I asked how can I get back the money I spent in here and stop playing. Well I still wait for the answer.

Best regards,
Ruy

hello my friend , as we all can see your suport for the staf has ended ) because it`s was shitty the las decision (rule or whatever) because the boot players are not interested in the EXP!!!! or STADUM MONNNNNNNEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY that`s *****)) they win a cup = more money and so on so why do they need the exp? that 50 games rule is helping them better than us honest players

as for you`re money , you`re invested money they don`t give a*****because as they were saying it should make no difference if you pay or play for free, =)))

sorry for this because none of us willget the money or our time or nothing they are not willing to do a thing about cheaters it`s soooo saaaaad

[ailwasp]

sorry for using some bad words, it was not agains`t the moderators or the staff mebers, i was just sayng that this situation is bad it was not in my intention to insult anyone and it still isn`t

next time i will try to expres myself in other ways

[ailwasp]

The Exp-Boni can be used whenever you like (no expiring). After activation all your players will receive double experience points in all games during the following 24 hours.

so the new rules dose not apply to the activation time right? (this is good:D)

one more thing, i just recently got a restart, and you promissed some bonusese , and vip`s for 50% so we have the first bonus, but at lvl 2 i can`t buy exp bonuses , when will you bee having the vip discounts ?

[tanminhhanoi]

The Exp-Boni can be used whenever you like (no expiring). After activation all your players will receive double experience points in all games during the following 24 hours.

so the new rules dose not apply to the activation time right? (this is good:D)

one more thing, i just recently got a restart, and you promissed some bonusese , and vip`s for 50% so we have the first bonus, but at lvl 2 i can`t buy exp bonuses , when will you bee having the vip discounts ?

Now the turnover of this game is coming down and they need to improve it by any business strategy and don't care for fair. Just love money only!

[ailwasp]

Now the turnover of this game is coming down and they need to improve it by any business strategy and don't care for fair. Just love money only!

what sould i say, we al feared for worst, but , actually in the past days i`we seen big and good changes, in tha cups section, bonuses, and so on , so afterall maybe everything will work out

i know that we all criticised some of them, but let`s be fair , and allso appreciate the good work

as for the future we will wait and see (i`m much more optimistic than i was)