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Redmax_de
Hello 11x11 Community,


we need your opinion, and every user can participate in this survey:

1. reintroduce the old technical loss rule (if users don't transmit, they lose 3:0)
2. keep the current offline rule?

This survey is active until Monday, Oktober 3rd 2011

Salve Comunità di 11x11,

abbiamo bisogno della vostra opinione, e ogni utente può partecipare a questo sondaggio:

1. reintrodurre la precedente regola della sconfitta a tavolino (se un utente non invia la formazione, perde automaticamente 3-0)

2. mantenere le regole correnti per chi gioca offline?

Questo sondaggio è attivo fino a Lunedì 3 Ottobre 2011

Merhaba 11x11 Ailesi;

Bir konu hakkında kullanıcıların fikrini sormak istiyoruz ve her kullanıcı bu ankete katılabilir.

1-Eskiden uygulanan teknik kayıp kuralının tekrar kurallara dahil olmasını istiyorum. ( bu kurala göre takımını göndermeyen kullanıcı 3-0 mağlup sayılır)

2- Mevcut uygulamanın devam etmesini istiyorum.

Bu anket 03.10.2011 Pazartesi gününe kadar aktif olacaktır.

Ola Comunidade do 11x11!

Precisamos de sua opinião, e todo usuário pode participar nesta averiguação:

1. Reintroduzir a antiga regra de Derrota Técnica (se os usuários não fizerem o envio perderão por 3x0)
2. Manter a atual regra do usuário offline?

Esta averiguação esta disponível até segunda-feira 03.10.11.

Hola Comunidad de 11x11,

necesitamos la opinión de cada usuario en esta encuesta:
Las opciones son las siguientes:

1. reintroducir la vieja regla de Derrota Técnica (si los usuarios no envian la alineacion antes de los 7 minutos
pierden 3-0)

2. mantener el estado actual aleatorio.

Esta encuesta estára activa hasta el Lunes 03.10.2011

Bonjour 11x11 Communauté,

nous avons besoin de votre avis sur les joueurs hors-ligne.

1. réintroduire l'ancienne règle (si un utilisateur n'envoie pas, il perd 0:3)

ou

2. maintenir la règle actuelle?

Ce sondage est actif jusqu'au lundi, 03.10.2011.

Hallo 11x11 Community,

eure Meinung ist gefragt, jeder User kann an dieser Umfrage teilnehmen:

1.wieder die alte TN-Regel einführen (wenn User nicht übermitteln, verlieren diese 3:0)
2.die aktuelle Offline-Regel beibehalten

Diese Umfrage ist nun bis einschließlich Montag, 03.10.2011 aktiv.


best regards

the whole admin team










g3ck0
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BJK 1903
merhaba 3-0 lık yenilg olayında çok şike dönüyor kendi arkadaşına maça çıkmayıp rakip oyuncuya çok güçlü çıkarak kumpas yapılıyordu ama sahaya çıkmayan oyuncunun gücü yüzde 50 oranında düşürülürse daha faydalı olur
mafia937
(Redmax_de @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 AM) *

Hello 11x11 Community,
we need your opinion, and every user can participate in this survey:

1. reintroduce the old technical loss rule (if users don't transmit, they lose 3:0)
2. keep the current offline rule?

This survey is active until Monday, Oktober 3rd 2011

Salve Comunità di 11x11,

abbiamo bisogno della vostra opinione, e ogni utente può partecipare a questo sondaggio:

1. reintrodurre la precedente regola della sconfitta a tavolino (se un utente non invia la formazione, perde automaticamente 3-0)

2. mantenere le regole correnti per chi gioca offline?

Questo sondaggio è attivo fino a Lunedì 3 Ottobre 2011

Merhaba 11x11 Ailesi;

Bir konu hakkında kullanıcıların fikrini sormak istiyoruz ve her kullanıcı bu ankete katılabilir.

1-Eskiden uygulanan teknik kayıp kuralının tekrar kurallara dahil olmasını istiyorum. ( bu kurala göre takımını göndermeyen kullanıcı 3-0 mağlup sayılır)

2- Mevcut uygulamanın devam etmesini istiyorum.

Bu anket 03.10.2011 Pazartesi gününe kadar aktif olacaktır.

Ola Comunidade do 11x11!

Precisamos de sua opinião, e todo usuário pode participar nesta averiguação:

1. Reintroduzir a antiga regra de Derrota Técnica (se os usuários não fizerem o envio perderão por 3x0)
2. Manter a atual regra do usuário offline?

Esta averiguação esta disponível até segunda-feira 03.10.11.

Hola Comunidad de 11x11,

necesitamos la opinión de cada usuario en esta encuesta:
Las opciones son las siguientes:

1. reintroducir la vieja regla de Derrota Técnica (si los usuarios no envian la alineacion antes de los 7 minutos
pierden 3-0)

2. mantener el estado actual aleatorio.

Esta encuesta estára activa hasta el Lunes 03.10.2011

Bonjour 11x11 Communauté,

nous avons besoin de votre avis sur les joueurs hors-ligne.

1. réintroduire l'ancienne règle (si un utilisateur n'envoie pas, il perd 0:3)

ou

2. maintenir la règle actuelle?

Ce sondage est actif jusqu'au lundi, 03.10.2011.

Hallo 11x11 Community,

eure Meinung ist gefragt, jeder User kann an dieser Umfrage teilnehmen:

1.wieder die alte TN-Regel einführen (wenn User nicht übermitteln, verlieren diese 3:0)
2.die aktuelle Offline-Regel beibehalten

Diese Umfrage ist nun bis einschließlich Montag, 03.10.2011 aktiv.
best regards

the whole admin team




il faudrait aussi qu'il y est pas d'arrangement entre deux union pour faire passer un autre gars aussi car en passant par la sa peu sentir la magouille donc a surveiller aussi cool.gif
Ellinakos
I believe that rule of the simulated game and not assigned with technical lost was introduced to not facilitate our friends to pass to the next round when we are together in a group, and so not make unnecessary the time that expect the other participants in the group, and they are ready to play in another tournament.
You can introduce the rule of the technical losti f you want to do this, only in the part of tournaments with knockout games.
g3ck0
ZITAT(BJK 1903 @ Sep 30 2011, 04:37 PM) *

merhaba 3-0 lık yenilg olayında çok şike dönüyor kendi arkadaşına maça çıkmayıp rakip oyuncuya çok güçlü çıkarak kumpas yapılıyordu ama sahaya çıkmayan oyuncunun gücü yüzde 50 oranında düşürülürse daha faydalı olur


hello,

please write in this section in english cause this is the board area of 11x11.com.
Thank you!
digiou
regle 1 (3 a 0 )
maitre_yoda
I think it's better to go back at the old rule but, I think too it's necessary to remove 10% of the endurance because if an adversary don't launch his first match and launch his second, he will have his team at 100%. endurance
kadikoybull
3-0 is a prize of waiting an offline opponent... so i hate waiting 3-0 is my choice
Theck
Yeap, but with the new rules you get money from stadium and some exp for the players, thats more important then a win to me smile.gif
ruy
I vote for 1, the old rule, it's fair.

The new beneficts people that are not on, and is unfair. Those who are off win money and hall points, what is unfair.

The ones that are on, and playing are many times left out of tournments so that off players benefict, get injury players, and many times lose money and points for those that are off.
hassan-jr
I see most of people just dont know what they are writing (and voting) about...
This TECHNICAL LOST was here before-and after long battle of players-they remove it-how do you think, WHY?
This rule is giving amazing tool for cheaters. All of you think-COOL finally i'll get an easy victory!
You are WRONG! Most of you will be kicked out just from first stage of tournaments... There will be no more importent how good you are, how strong is your team. Only importent thing will be: do you have many friends online smile.gif
Just try to imagine: You and 3 other players in first group. They are friends... All 3 are pressing you, but one is giving TL for their friends. They have 3:0 victories and fresh teams (no tired and no injurys after TL), you have 3 games with press to win-think yourselves, who will be out? Another scenario:playoff tournament, you and few fellas again. You have 3-4 games to final, they are pushing one of them, giving him TL. To get the cup, he need win only one game-with you, he will be fresh, you tired. Is that fair? Is that what do you want?
This game will lost these small pieces of sense she got so far...
werrol mourinho
keep the current offline rule

because.. Sometimes there can be 2 teams in a group.. And the player helps his friend and he doesnt send his team and his friend take 3 points and 3 + goals directly..
kite80
Responding to hassan-jr comment: people can think with their brains, and if you can't respect their opinions, well it's your problem.

Now, 11x11 is an online football manager, right? A simulator. So someone tell me please: in which sport a team can win a match WITHOUT playing?

Second: many people I know are here because they can play against other people, not against a standard autoscheme system; and to tell the truth, I think that combines present in the old rules system were a less evil than what I see now: users that don't change level, but grow their players, earn money and strenghten their teams, all because they play offline tournaments.

Each rule has his weak point, so choose wisely and think about everything, not just what we say here
hassan-jr
Responding to Kite80.
I have no problem with respecting others opinions, but I see you have problem with my one, just because is different than yours... It's a FORUM Dude, everyone has right to say what he is thinking about-even when you are desagree with him...
BTW, its a GAME not a SIMULATOR, did you ever see in real game 5-6 serious injuries in every game? Players waiting till goalie will comeback after corner? or 5 players with 25/25 in shooting loosing in penalties with other 17/17.... IS JUST A GAME not a SIMULATOR. Yes, there was a problem with cheaters growing up on low levels-but it's because of illegal money and players transfer. I'm telling again, TL will kill a sense of competition in this game. How often do you have problems with players who are winning without playn? Once per day, per few days? TL cheaters will be in almost every cup. That was before, that will be now. And thing how long tournaments will take, when on every stage will be one guy, who is giving TL for his friend. You will spend 1h to play one cup... Have nice Weekend!
maximus
Hello,

There was also an application 11x11.ru
2 game consecutive game come out, the system plays,defeated in the next match by forfeit
eliminated in this case, knowing that to lose the match.users can continue living in the cup again,
the Internet outage.because of these problems do not become victims.

mauranius
In my opinion, if we have to chose between either of these I would chose for option 1, but I have a better idea!

You could rig the game that if someone does not set up their game in time they will lose automatically, but they will still play. In this way offline players will lose endurance, won't win and won't get xp while the opponent will win, might get money from the stadium and will get xp.

As a non-offline player you should never be "punished" because someone else is online and I feel that even if the skill difference is huge the online player should always win. This will also scare off a few players who tend to go offline because they know they have superior teams.

Mauranius
ruy


As a non-offline player you should never be "punished" because someone else is online and I feel that even if the skill difference is huge the online player should always win. This will also scare off a few players who tend to go offline because they know they have superior teams.

Mauranius

True,

with the current rule I think nekki goes against their rules, because help off players is almost the same of alowing bots, both win and don't play.

I can add another idea, the possibility of keeping the current sistem, but all the money, xp of players, points won and cups won being taken away from off players. A player that is off on 2 games in the same tournment loses all he would have won. If not, better the old sistem, even with friends helping, is better to have on players winning than off players winning from who is playing.

Of course that those who have been using the current sistem are against the old, lol. But in fact, I think that those players that are not respecting the others, and join a tournment but don't even stay on to play it, should be banned for life, because they disrespect other players. It is unfair that one player that is on, stays out of a tournment and someone off is in, and wins xp, money, points and cups...
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